he spoke tonight with erin burnett. >> jimmy lee dykes comes on to the bus. he hands him a piece of paper. it's got instructions on it. he hands it to charlie the bus driver. and charlie poland stands up and puts himself between -- there was about 20 kids on the bus. this is an odd school bus because of the rural area. you have kids from kindergarten to high school there. >> all ages. >> the littlest kids sitting in the front. the older ones sitting in the back. and he said "i'm going to need to take two kids." and charles albert poland, the bus driver, who has been through hostage training two years before in case a gunman ever came on his bus, i'm sure he never imagined it would be somebody he knew, says, "i'm responsible for these children and you can't have them." and over that four minutes you hear jimmy lee dykes say "i'm going to kill you if you get in the way here." and as he's trying to take the kids he says, "i'm going to shoot you. i'm going to shoot you." and poland, you can tell on the videotape, is frightened, but he stands his ground. and then